I saw it don't worry. And yes it upset me ...Originally Posted by Troncaat:1224126
Bang Bang I shot you down
Bang Bang you hit the ground
Bang Bang that awful sound
Bang Bang I used to shoot you down -Nancy Sinatra
Only three letters explain this: Omg....
All for One, and One for All!
The Brightest of Flames..cast the Darkest of Shadows..
One who knows nothing cannot understand anything..
Last edited by Justg; 08-15-2013 at 08:46 AM. Reason: less drama about less drama
Ofc its not dramatic... but all players feel like StS staff absolutely don't care about PL. This game is still alive, there is still a very active community. When Samhayne tell us spawnkill is allowed in PL, and beside in AL there is system against that. Plus spawnkill is really a problem on this cap, with skills unbalance, I wanted to play endgame PvP, but I get spawnkill everytime I try endgame ctf games... We are all like "wtf?!".
I can understand AL is now your main game and BD is the new one, they need atention of course. But PL is still here and without it and us, other StS games wouldnt be what they are now.
Btw Thanks for replying JustG
Last edited by Lexlyde; 08-15-2013 at 08:51 AM.
Bang Bang I shot you down
Bang Bang you hit the ground
Bang Bang that awful sound
Bang Bang I used to shoot you down -Nancy Sinatra
You guys should do some rotative lvl Caps updates so that no one would be jealous, and it would avoid a game to be forgotten.
3rd or even 4th cap in a row? It would be nice to raise cap in other gamesOriginally Posted by Justg
Or, if you don't have time to raise it (yet?), it would be awesome from you guys to change some stuffs which truly needs to be fixed in PL right now, such as unbalanced end game PvP/ctf, ctf spawning issue and some other stuff, that keep being asked from community for 4-5 months already.
Cya!
We appreciate the effort, however, it is not what you said which brought this thread about. When there is a lack of interest shown towards PL and it is up to the community to clean it up only to see our efforts destroyed in one sentence, demoralizing doesn't give the effects on us justice. The effects from that quote have already began in game.
CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr
Spawning is a big no no. The community has all there is to say.
Isn't that the truth!
I don't host PvP games often, but when I do, I boot for spawning, no matter which team and no matter what player. I don't understand why the number of kills is more important than some level of fair play to so many. It boggles the mind. Spawn kills are right up there with frying ants with a magnifying glass. Ya most every guy has done it at one time but most of us grow out of it after an hour or two. Some of the PvP areas are virtual Psychopath training grounds where antisocial behavior is rewarded by the omission of consequences in game or by the mods. What sort of pride can a person have for putting up such meaningless numbers with such poor behavior?
And Really, how Proud can SpaceTime be for creating this environment, letting it fester and then allowing it to go unchecked?
Last edited by Whatsinaname; 08-15-2013 at 12:58 PM.
Being Hunted for doing the right thing is more of an Honor and less of a Burden than some would think
Surprisingly enough though plenty of the pvp "legends" spawn kill to. Almost every game theirs either a spawner or a rusher. From now on just lock you games and spawners will loose interest.
Booting before boss is completely different then spawning... and inappropriate language isnt right anywhere not in just a game. The only reason those spawners like azi and his friends got banned was because of his language. They devs cant ban everyone single that spawns... even if that would make a perfect community, there cant be good without evil.
And sam thanked a post saying you need to live with it because im sure he sees many threads like this he sees all the time... just like in real life nothing can be perfect. This game is tons of fun if you avoid anything you dont like.
And about that ruining players experienced thing that everyone always talks about.... there are countless like number of things that can ruin a player's experience, yes its a vague rule but dont try to use it as an excuse for every little thing lol :-)
This wasnt really directed towards you crim but the majority of the people agree with you so this is my view
If you don't think spawning ruins the playing experience, then you are sadly mistaken. When a new player enters a CTF map for the first time only to be spawned and this continues to happen, their initial thoughts are going to be negative regarding PvP and the PvP part of the community. It is the same as being booted at a boss or seeing inappropriate names/language in a towne as not everyone who plays this game has a lengthy list of friends that many of us on forums do. When people spawn kill, they do not care about their reputation, helping others, or enjoying the game. All they care about are "kills". Just as booters only care about getting pink. Just as potty mouths only care about getting noticed. Admit it or not, it is all relative. However, as stated above, there are those out there who are well known to this community who are known to do this and I have caught them in the act on my alts. Maybe that is the real reason for your argument...
And those who have responded, the many who have responded, as well as the many in game who go after these few individuals, can't all be wrong. I mean, really? You think taking advantage of a players join lag and inability to defend themselves is "a part of the game"?
I think not.
And btw, I have only seen a few things that the community says "ruins a players experience." Each issue is valid and is not an overused excuse as you have made it out to be. This many people saying spawning is wrong over the course of 3+ years cannot be wrong.
Last edited by CrimsonTider; 08-15-2013 at 09:58 PM.
CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr
Yeah I guess to sum it all up, I believe spawning is PART of a player's experience. Everyone experiences this at some point in time if you pvp/ctf. Live and learn I would say. Dont get me wrong, I believe spawning is bad on new players but its one of those things that will never change. Many multiplayer games have some sort of spawning issue. Its part of the online gaming world
srry havent been on the forums for the past couple days, but rlly? Is this what the community has come to? What Sam said to me seems like hes promoting spawning. Also we all know a dev has seen this and im sure many have and we still havent had a reply to the OP why is that? Its time the devs /mods wake up and do something. Cant they see that everyone wants this to be fixed except the spawners that are still playing... This is the kind of thing that pisses me off and that makes me wonder why im still giving this dam company my money so that they can say these kind of things such as spawning being part of the game and even tho PL has been waiting over 11months (I think) for a new cap the say we are planning on giving AL the next expansion and we dont know what we will do after... Really makes me think why im still playing this game...
Let's get to the root of the problem here. Spawning has been around since Ctf has been implemented. People are just whining about it now because end game PvP is a joke. It's full a players that aren't fit to be in there.
I know my combos but this cap combos are only usefull vs str classes or its may the luckiest and bes button smasher wen!
Good players gone bad.
And ppl complain since ages about spawnkilling, since 3 years any update fixed this problem. But if you hear Sam and NotYo, there is no problems with this. Endgame Ctf isnt playable for new players ( I try to go endgame but im desesperated when I see how it became skilless and easy to kill/die ). So yes spawnkill ruined my endgame PvP experience and I think I'm not the only one.Originally Posted by Mysticaldream:1225921
Bang Bang I shot you down
Bang Bang you hit the ground
Bang Bang that awful sound
Bang Bang I used to shoot you down -Nancy Sinatra
Yes, spawning has been around for ages but this cap is the first where spawning was "professionalised". The spawners have a tank standing in the middle of the spawn to take the initial aim and two birds who take turns with killing when they are buffed. A month ago almost every time I searched for games there was a spawn game going on, making it highly likely for any new players to stumble into it and get off on completely the wrong foot in PvP/Ctf.
The issue was kind of resolved when some of the spawners got banned and the rest of them was too scared to continue.
With this statement coming from a dev I wouldnt be surprised if it starts again...he is basically promoting spawning!
Way to spoil the new gens even more...
OneRandomNoob - 76 meatshield | Gaunab - 76 dodgenub
Bookmarks