Arcane Hooks - Upgraded?

**Limsi** · 09-09-2013, 11:26 AM

Architect Quills of Brutality lvl 36 I believe

**Zeus** · 09-09-2013, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Swede

I'm looking at these now. What weapon(s) are you guys comparing them to that's so much better?

L35 mountain teeth or the new quills. Either ones arguably is better than hooks.

**falmear** · 09-09-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Apollo

L35 mountain teeth or the new quills. Either ones arguably is better than hooks.

Time for some addition by subtraction.

**Zeus** · 09-09-2013, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by falmear

Time for some addition by subtraction.

Haha!

**Swede** · 09-09-2013, 01:48 PM

Alright my changed version will still have lower Damage than the best Legendary daggers in Realm of Shadows but all other stats are slightly better, including DPS. That, in addition to the powerful proc, should make them the best choice unless all you're after is Ability damage.

**wvhills** · 09-09-2013, 01:57 PM

now time to sell!

**Zeus** · 09-09-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Swede

Alright my changed version will still have lower Damage than the best Legendary daggers in Realm of Shadows but all other stats are slightly better, including DPS. That, in addition to the powerful proc, should make them the best choice unless all you're after is Ability damage.

Awesome, thanks!!

Any idea when we could be expecting the patch by? (I don't mean to rush!)

**MayaNatsume** · 09-09-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Swede

Alright my changed version will still have lower Damage than the best Legendary daggers in Realm of Shadows but all other stats are slightly better, including DPS. That, in addition to the powerful proc, should make them the best choice unless all you're after is Ability damage.

Thanks !!!

**gundamsone** · 09-09-2013, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Swede

Alright my changed version will still have lower Damage than the best Legendary daggers in Realm of Shadows but all other stats are slightly better, including DPS. That, in addition to the powerful proc, should make them the best choice unless all you're after is Ability damage.

Yes this is exactly what people want.
Again people choose daggers over bows when we require DPS, so hooks having the best DPS again will make them the best daggers again.
The ability is seriously underrated, the bleed damage alone is like a 5th skill bleeding the target constantly (w/ pretty high bleed damage) and the bleed effect stacks too!

**Zanpakuto** · 09-09-2013, 09:01 PM

Well, my friends are going to be very upset about this delayed news. Awesome that STS is keeping their word though

**Taejo** · 09-09-2013, 09:05 PM

Finally an end to the angry rogue protest!

(meant jokingly btw)

**Kakashis** · 09-09-2013, 10:52 PM

My heart sank when I heard that STS would buff as I sold mine off earlier

took a hit and bought another pair at inflated price. Hoping I won't die as often after buff.

**gundamsone** · 09-09-2013, 10:58 PM

Just to boost the demand

Hooks still provide 110+HP, 200+Mana, 2.75%+Crit over L.36 Daggers alone
That's equivalent to 4 SkillPoints put into INT, and 3 into Crit

**Frohnatur** · 09-09-2013, 11:40 PM

Wow. Apollo.

Your campaign finally worked out.

Lets see... if I rant just a little bit more about rogue OP in pvp, I might get my will? LOL

**Zeus** · 09-09-2013, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Frohnatur

Wow. Apollo.

Your campaign finally worked out.

Lets see... if I rant just a little bit more about rogue OP in pvp, I might get my will? LOL

My rant was only to keep to their word which they stated & seem to be making good on (meaning the thread accomplished its purpose). Now, your approach is something entirely different. A rogue truly isn't OP in PvP. If it were, even the pro sorcerers would be complaining about rogue. However, that is not the case.

Anyways, I'm not going to turn this thread's purpose around so if you need anything else, don't hesitate to PM me.

**Kakashis** · 09-10-2013, 08:54 AM

While swede is buffing the hooks, would it be possible o give it a little visual appearance update to make it awesome looking like the other newer arcane? Maybe a red/purple glowing circle like the other weapons get constantly or on the proc! Constant red body lightening would be nice too. But I guess it's too much to ask and doesn't really matter as long as stats are good again

just thought that when they aren't useful anymore I can still keep them for a visual factor

**Rare** · 09-10-2013, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Frohnatur

Wow. Apollo.

Your campaign finally worked out.

Lets see... if I rant just a little bit more about rogue OP in pvp, I might get my will? LOL

His was only a request to honor the claim that STS made. Not complaining.

Originally Posted by Kakashis

While swede is buffing the hooks, would it be possible o give it a little visual appearance update to make it awesome looking like the other newer arcane? Maybe a red/purple glowing circle like the other weapons get constantly or on the proc! Constant red body lightening would be nice too. But I guess it's too much to ask and doesn't really matter as long as stats are good again

just thought that when they aren't useful anymore I can still keep them for a visual factor

I dunno... IMO, the hooks are already the best looking weapon of the 3 arcane. In fact, in the game probably (I think teeth look pretty awesome though).

**Zeus** · 09-10-2013, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Aedenos

His was only a request to honor the claim that STS made. Not complaining.

I dunno... IMO, the hooks are already the best looking weapon of the 3 arcane. In fact, in the game probably (I think teeth look pretty awesome though).

Yeah, hooks are definitely the most attractive looking arcane weapon to me. I'd rather not have some fixes to something that isn't broken.

**Kakashis** · 09-11-2013, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Apollo

Yeah, hooks are definitely the most attractive looking arcane weapon to me. I'd rather not have some fixes to something that isn't broken.

Was only a suggestion as the other weapons have awesome visual effects! This one only has red lightening on mobs during proc which is barely noticeable! Red/purple spinning circle like the warrior mythic weapon would look sick!

Instead of just saying hooks have been slightly buffed in update notes, just say that secret powers within the hooks have awakened in the world of Shuyal. What other magic awaits you! Then the visual effect can be justified hahaha

**Zeus** · 09-11-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kakashis

Was only a suggestion as the other weapons have awesome visual effects! This one only has red lightening on mobs during proc which is barely noticeable! Red/purple spinning circle like the warrior mythic weapon would look sick!

Instead of just saying hooks have been slightly buffed in update notes, just say that secret powers within the hooks have awakened in the world of Shuyal. What other magic awaits you! Then the visual effect can be justified hahaha

Haha, that could be cool too.