Lol so we've been being lied to this whole time. A lot of people dished out a lot of platinum to perfect gem archons. And now this has been brought up LOL
Sts good job! Great way to show the people who PAY YOUR BILLS lmao. I also love how popular this threads getting all day long yet no developer has said anything yet
Discussion on the Newly Revealed DMG % System
Only applies in pve unless you use a dmg passive for pvp
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Sam did comment in the other thread about this. Take a look. :-)Originally Posted by Limitational
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So only damage is affected and not armor and crit passives?
I am not sure how much armor testing has been done.
The tests Ravager and I did on armor were only for the archon armor ring and passive armor, and only in PvP.
It is known that PvE behaves differently due to pvp balancing, so that will need testing independently.
This test also did not include an armor % pet.
If someone has tested this for PvE and with an armor % pet, it would be great to know.
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@Serancha - what are the armor% pets? Most of my pets seem to have damage reduction, or a fixed armor value, not armor% improvement.
If I happen to have one of the armor% pets, I'll do some testing tomorrow.
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Gah I don't remember. It's one of the arcane ones. And I don't have it.....whim or singe perhaps? I don't think we have any others yet, but who knows what will come in the future.
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head..about..to explode. Now will have to really look at which pets to buy and use. Also, "free respec" weekend please!
BTW, I was perfectly happy not reading about this. I thought it all stacked. Freekin' noob.
From what I was told, when equipping the Archon Ring (with the armor bonus), it cancels the durable passive (because Archon was dominant). But without the Archon, the 5% from the passive would work.
Only armor % pet I know of is Glacian w/ its AA.
All others are dmg reduction pets
That's what I thought too. I wanted to take off durability and put it elsewhere if this was the case. Serancha gave me the numbers as we tested in PVP and results showed differently as stated above.
My sources tell me otherwise. Besides, what makes armor so special that it would be excluded from this case? Doesn't make much sense. Maybe you should try testing again
Btw, there isn't a huge difference between 5% armor bonus and 3.5% armor bonus.
Did your sources test as well? I had serancha slash me about 50 times with archon of potency and 50 times with a random legendary ring without armor increase.My sources tell me otherwise. Besides, what makes armor so special that it would be excluded from this case? Doesn't make much sense. Maybe you should try testing again
Btw, there isn't a huge difference between 5% armor bonus and 3.5% armor bonus.
I thought durability would kick in and get exact same results but they differed. What method did your sources use?
Yes, that's the glitch that Enegizeric pointed out a long time ago in a buried thread. The description says 2.5% armor bonus, you put it on, do the math, its actually increasing your armor by 5% instead of 2.5%.
I'd be happy to post the numbers if anyone wants. I think the document is still on my desktop.
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Pls and thank you.
I've always been saying there was something off with the +dmg% calculation and that it was also most probably the reason why we didn't see those stats appear in our stats window.
It's kind of a let down that at least passive damage isn't stacked. Although, it's good to know that just about everyone with a +dmg% pet has been wasting 5 precious skill points on a useless stat. Thanks for clearing that up.
Maybe it's time for STS to act, and make our damage stat in our stats window actually reflect the exact damage we're getting.. Including elixirs, pets, passives, gear (even if it's only the highest number that counts, everything should be included). We've been promised this for literally over a year and it would have prevented the entire community having to guess where to best put their stat points in.
And for all doubters of my rockstar status:
for this reason my war has 7skill build lol.
This just had me thinking what happens when you wear mythic armor, blood ruby and mythic amulet that all have damage bonus? Do they stack or only the highest works?
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I want my platinum back for all the damage elixers I bought during combo...which was all of them.
I want every last platinum of it...
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This has nothing to do with it. The issue is only on percent based damage. Hard coded static numbers (like 3.0 damage on a full circuit of potency) do not change. They are built into the item.
However the stat numbers on gear often appear to have no relation to the stats they provide, or else only some of the calculated variables are listed. There's some super messed up math in the weapons areas, which implies the "stats" displayed on an item are often just for show. This is why we have a preview window in the cs though. It is just hoped that it shows something close to the truth.
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