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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Neither, neither, and neither. I just want proof on claims, because the one thing that I find annoying is people making claims without proof to back them up. This then becomes into the PL "facts" that I like to call folklore.

    I thought the same thing as you, but when I did the tests, Gaunab proved me wrong. So, I'd really like to see why there is a difference in your case.
    Gotcha. I agree, there are some wacky claims out there and I've thought wrongly in the past before only to get corrected later. One question, when you did your testing, did one of you stand still, and the other attacked him? If so, I have a small theory about that which would give me a good lead to start testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    Gotcha. I agree, there are some wacky claims out there and I've thought wrongly in the past before only to get corrected later. One question, when you did your testing, did one of you stand still, and the other attacked him? If so, I have a small theory about that which would give me a good lead to start testing.
    As for the question on our procedure, yes, that was the procedure that we used. If I recall though, I did not test with skills. So, if you also want to create a test with skills, that might explain why you feel that higher crit = higher chance to penetrate dodge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Read Physiologics guide to PLs advanced Mechanics.
    DPS and Dmg are 2 totally different things. DPS is your weapon, DMG is your Skill Dmg.
    Reason why Demonic birds are good is because their range. They can keep using auto (The DPS, because its their Xbow) in compare to Sanguine birds, who have high dmg, but cannot kite as well because sanguine bow is not 12m. And the skills (Blast Shot) will take the Skill Dmg into account. The DMG on the item will affect your skills.
    Thats why whenever you equip a better bow than the one you have (Such as you have a 45 cheap bow but then you get a custom recurve, your blast shot and other skills are of course more powerful.
    If your weapon has a better speed (Some have 1.0 speed, some have 0.7 speed) Then your DPS (Damage per second if you hadnt know) will go up.
    1) Dmg =/= skill dmg.
    2) Xbow is 13m.
    3) Skill dmg demo > sang.
    4) Skill damage is relative to specific items.
    5) DPS is dependent on more than just weapon speed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post
    I thought bow damage and skill damage are the same thing? Doesn't bow damage affect skill damage?
    Yes, an item's damage is used to determine skill damage, however different items influence skill damage more than others, keeper's staff for example. Not all items dish out the same percentage of their base damage to skill damage, which is why 2h bears sux so bad.


    Now, let's let Micah and Zeus continue der bickerin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    As for the question on our procedure, yes, that was the procedure that we used. If I recall though, I did not test with skills. So, if you also want to create a test with skills, that might explain why you feel that higher crit = higher chance to penetrate dodge.
    Alright, thanks. I guess I'll find out. Admittedly I've got no axe to grind or anything. If I'm wrong, so be it. I'll just be really shocked and confused if I am. As I stated though, I have a few ideas why you guys got the results you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Now, let's let Micah and Zeus continue der bickerin.
    Oh, please. Micah and Zeus are way too mature for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    1) Dmg =/= skill dmg.
    2) Xbow is 13m.
    3) Skill dmg demo > sang.
    4) Skill damage is relative to specific items.
    5) DPS is dependent on more than just weapon speed.



    Yes, an item's damage is used to determine skill damage, however different items influence skill damage more than others, keeper's staff for example. Not all items dish out the same percentage of their base damage to skill damage, which is why 2h bears sux so bad.


    Now, let's let Micah and Zeus continue der bickerin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    1) Dmg =/= skill dmg.
    2) Xbow is 13m.
    3) Skill dmg demo > sang.
    4) Skill damage is relative to specific items.
    5) DPS is dependent on more than just weapon speed.



    Yes, an item's damage is used to determine skill damage, however different items influence skill damage more than others, keeper's staff for example. Not all items dish out the same percentage of their base damage to skill damage, which is why 2h bears sux so bad.


    Now, let's let Micah and Zeus continue der bickerin.

    I do know weapon speed is not only only thing that sets the DPS

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    Micah, I think I probably could however my bird isnt that level, gimme time!
    Hi, I play PL, hopefully to be active here. Make every moment last, don't waste it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    Oh, please. Micah and Zeus are way too mature for that.
    Micah might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkbby View Post
    Micah, I think I probably could however my bird isnt that level, gimme time!
    Sounds good bro! Take your time!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Micah might be.
    Why you gotta throw Zeus under the buss, man

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