SnS Damage Pools Banish

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It's totally uncool. It was fun running it testing for a night. But knowing people will just make teams with 4 S&S and exclude every other player, removing the only chance most people have at a leaderboard spot, is unacceptable. I worked all year to earn enough for a half a ring just to have a chance at timed boards, only to have that chance removed within 4 days with this.

Now only 35 people get a chance at speed runs? What are the rest of us to do? It's not like there's any ap to work for or loot to farm. For many this is the only thing holding us. If you limit that to the 35 S&S owners, most of the remaini g players will go elsewhere.

I definitely agree. Sure SnS is an 'exclusive pet' and should be allowed to be slightly OP (like it was), but now it's just too much. The pools are quite OP in pvp, and regardless of the "avoid them" argument, it's nearly impossible when stunned, clocked, panicked, or axed. I seem to die within a few seconds of the dot and I'm talking about when I'm on my tank who has 6800 health. I don't know the exact damage, but I know the second I stand on the purple circle, I see 3 digit red damages hitting me more than once per second.

The gap between Samael and SnS has extended way too far, and I cannot imagine how a player new to end game who doesn't have an arcane pet would even stand a remote chance against an SnS team.

The only caveat I can think of is that we shouldn't be playing "free-for-all" CTF matches. If we played CTF as designed, then we would be constantly moving and SnS wouldn't be such a pvp problem.

Also, pertaining to timed runs i definitely agree that, for example, in a tindirin elite run a 4 SnS team can literally do nothing and wreck the records of a much more skilled team who is running with, say, 4 Samaels. There must be a balance, and a mistake that ACCIDENTALLY allows SnS to banish in addition to it's already OP skills is ridiculous...

As a person new to timed runs, I can say that I'm somewhat discouraged by this, and hope it's fixed soon.

[Zeus]

I have pointed this out in a thread a few days ago. Now time run/Pvp is just about with or without sns

PvP is not - Samael is still the dominant pet in mainly every scenario excluding clashes. However, for PvE, I agree.

[Bless]

And as if they werent already OP in ctf...

Is this all a bug? Maybe sts blew up the algorithms and made it OP.

Ask any DEV to play a clash with it in ctf and I promise you they'll agree that it is OP.

[Dill1sHere]

That's why the mage with SnS beat my timed record with about 30 secs off -.-

[Zeus]

Right, and as if they werent already OP in ctf...

Is this all a bug? Maybe sts blew up the algorithms and made it OP

They weren't OP in CTF - you rarely saw it being used. It isn't all a bug, STG stated that they increased damage and healing.

[Excuses]

For me, all this argument sound the too much 'stun' in pvp is bigger problem than sns's aa.
No one complain about 5 Sam making heal fail (cuz everyone has it).

Of course, banish in pve should be removed.
I recommend to reset lb after the fix.
And kill/death glitch should be fixed too.

Zeus has sns and didn't try to exploit it on time run but brought it to forum.
I don't understand why people insult him for this.

[Serancha]

The lb needs resetting anyways since the arena times are from the old arena.

The other problem with this S&S huge damage and super-banish is that archon farming is obscenely easy for anyone with these pets, or with a friend with this pet. Kind of defeats the purpose of having rare and valuable items if people can just AA their way to wealth.

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The lb needs resetting anyways since the arena times are from the old arena.

The other problem with this S&S huge damage and super-banish is that archon farming is obscenely easy for anyone with these pets, or with a friend with this pet. Kind of defeats the purpose of having rare and valuable items if people can just AA their way to wealth.

That actually made me lol ^.

Anyway, the LB does not need to be completely reset. I'd say that Arena times for sure, but other times seems to be legit. Last night we took 10 crypt records from two players who both have SnS. Point being, the SnS AA - pve concern isn't relevant in every map, and therefore shouldn't mean that the whole board should be reset.

That's just my opinion doe!

[Samhayne]

Thanks for the head's up. We are looking into it.

[Zeus]

That actually made me lol ^.

Anyway, the LB does not need to be completely reset. I'd say that Arena times for sure, but other times seems to be legit. Last night we took 10 crypt records from two players who both have SnS. Point being, the SnS AA - pve concern isn't relevant in every map, and therefore shouldn't mean that the whole board should be reset.

That's just my opinion doe!

Totally misread but I agree. On the more difficult maps, you will see a difference. On the lower maps, you will not.

@Sam
Thank you so much! Temptation was getting to me, hehe!

[Serancha]

That actually made me lol ^.

Anyway, the LB does not need to be completely reset. I'd say that Arena times for sure, but other times seems to be legit. Last night we took 10 crypt records from two players who both have SnS. Point being, the SnS AA - pve concern isn't relevant in every map, and therefore shouldn't mean that the whole board should be reset.

That's just my opinion doe!

Ah but nobody has actually made an effort at recs so far Raw. We ran elites with 2 SS owners last night and most times were faster in one run than the banner holders achieved after working on the runs for weeks last season.

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Ah but nobody has actually made an effort at recs so far Raw. We ran elites with 2 SS owners last night and most times were faster in one run than the banner holders achieved after working on the runs for weeks last season.

Yes I know, Serancha. Point just being that SnS won't help in easier runs. But to your point, on the harder runs (which I haven't tried), I can see where the differences are. We all have valid points, and I'm glad Sam is looking into this!

[Dex Scene]

Zeus has sns and didn't try to exploit it on time run but brought it to forum.
I don't understand why people insult him for this.

+1000

[Impact]

Avoid purple pools, problem solved.

Your entire appeal is based on IF purple pools stack. IF the pools overlap & most of the time, they only overlap partially - you really have to walk on the purple areas? Furthermore, you need to stay in a pool for more than a half second? I can tell immediately if I'm in a pool and back out. It's common sense!

I've fought against SnS as well. It isn't that bad if you just stand on the green pools. Better yet, you also have the option to fall back to a portion of the map that does not have these pools. If you're going head on, of course you'll feel the pools - that's what they're there for! Before, HoT could override them. Now, they actually mean something if you make the mistake to trod on one.

Also, as Remiem said, it's a leaderboard event pet so it was meant to be OP. There are still a few out there...buy one if it really bothers you that much. However, that will not solve your problem because you will STILL need to learn how to fight against it.

It's simple...avoid purple pools and do not be overly aggressive.

Copy & paste - I don't feel like typing everything all over again.

Ofc you'll have no problem, your a fully maxed op arcane rogue...

[Saribeau]

Ofc you'll have no problem, your a fully maxed op arcane rogue...

um didnt u read the thing about tanks with 6.8k hp dying in a few seconds if the purples stack? arcane ring doesnt actually matter in this thread. go take your arcane ring complaints to the "Lets be jealous" thread.

[Remiem]

This bug was fixed in the latest content update. Closing this thread. Thanks for the heads up, Zeus!