Y reduce stats only for rogue in pvp!!!!!!!

**hallowring** · 09-06-2015, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Andrisber

This^

"Pls buff rogues".

Dear canbolt,

Have you ever played at a higher level? Rogues are for everything - PvE and PvP. They are quite op, killing warriors within a combo or a few, and you think that it's fair to buff them? Also, rogues are getting pretty decent weapons in this expansion while warriors and mages have to suffer.

i agree wepons arent as decent for worriors in the new expansion and that can effect certain players.
p.s i hope sts improves more on warrior gear XD

**Edward Coug** · 09-06-2015, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Alhuntrazeck

The day sts buffs the rogue damage in PvP is the day I quit AL.

At endgame, the new bow gives as much damage as the mythic bow while the legendary gun gives around what 60 damage less than its counterpart...? So if you're a boulder gun user, you have a significant disadvantage against a mythic bow user. If pet damage is added in PvP for rogues I can assure you it will wreck balance.

Rogues are already quite strong...i don't see why you'd complain, seeing that some genius at STS decided it would be cool to give the damage class a freaking mages' shield.

The new bows actually don't offer as much damage as they seem to. The skill damage is actually much lower than the myth bows. There are a couple of threads on this topic. The myth bows are still far superior.

I completely agree, though. Mages should have the same fake damage added to their new legendary weapons that rogues got. Then, they, too, can show off their high fake damage in town.

**Wutzgood** · 09-06-2015, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Caabatric

Alright you know what, I agree with the OP now.

Let us nerf mages int stat...

In return, frost should now freeze in pvp for the 7 seconds stated in the description and not count as a stun but a freeze so no immunity, and Time should now root in pvp also not to count as a stun but a root so no immunity...

Now is that a mage you would want to fight???
Heck nerf mages int stat by 30% I guarantee I won't lose this fight if mages skills did what they were supposed to do....

Yep I'd take the int nerf and give rogues back their damage in pvp if mages skills work like they do in pve.

**Oezheasate** · 09-06-2015, 09:01 PM

To the op: You mad? Rogues op anyway, stop trying to make rogue invincible. For gods sake its bad enough already

**Caabatric** · 09-07-2015, 12:34 AM

I'm

Originally Posted by yubaraj

LOL
I will dance if mages get the stun lock skill back.
The only thing I was saying was that if we stunlocked our enemy in vs then there is no need to move around or dance watever.

BTW I was agreeing with you that nerf mage damage but give stun freeze root back.

I hope you understand me now.

Got it C=

**Upperbound** · 09-07-2015, 01:22 AM

Op rogues wants to be more op.

**kinzmet** · 09-07-2015, 04:15 AM

Twinks and Endgames are Oranges and apples. They can't really be compared.

I don't agree to buff rogues at the endgame. But the OP is talking about the twinks. If it was the nerf on twink rogues then I would agree that the nerf wasn't really as balancing as it was in the endgames.

My suggestion would be to make the nerf by level.
Level 2 rogues CLEARLY dont need a 10% debuff.
Level 46 rogues WOULD NEED a 10% debuff.

If the nerf system is like this then it would be ok for twink rogues IMO.

A level 5 rogue would have a hardtime against a level5 warrior and possible sure loss(diamonds and squirels are very op), but level 46 rogue would be a different story.

If you guys plays both endgame and twink I know you can relate to this.

**canbolt** · 09-07-2015, 08:09 AM

Yes bro u r correct y is the low game pvp twinks are buffed due to the op high end rogue mages and warrior have 100+ dmg in pvp without para whereas rogue in lvl 9 do not even have 85+ with para IS THIS CALLED BALANCING and aim shot is also buffed some time bcz of the less crit only after 5-7 shots we get crits in the meanwhile we dmg only about 50-70 which causes no impact on the warriors!!!!!

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**Caabatric** · 09-07-2015, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by canbolt

Yes bro u r correct y is the low game pvp twinks are buffed due to the op high end rogue mages and warrior have 100+ dmg in pvp without para whereas rogue in lvl 9 do not even have 85+ with para IS THIS CALLED BALANCING and aim shot is also buffed some time bcz of the less crit only after 5-7 shots we get crits in the meanwhile we dmg only about 50-70 which causes no impact on the warriors!!!!!

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So you are complaining about rogues damage being low????? Even at level 10 rogues were whipping the floor with mages and wars....
That said Scale damage by level is a good idea and I support it, but rogues definitely still have a nerf on their damage

**sapdcroi** · 09-07-2015, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by canbolt

Yes bro u r correct y is the low game pvp twinks are buffed due to the op high end rogue mages and warrior have 100+ dmg in pvp without para whereas rogue in lvl 9 do not even have 85+ with para IS THIS CALLED BALANCING and aim shot is also buffed some time bcz of the less crit only after 5-7 shots we get crits in the meanwhile we dmg only about 50-70 which causes no impact on the warriors!!!!!

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mage is weak class in pvp. why do u still complaint about your class. i saw rouge in lvl 10 and 11 still op lol

**Earlingstad** · 09-07-2015, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by kinzmet

But the OP is talking about the twinks. If it was the nerf on twink rogues then I would agree that the nerf wasn't really as balancing as it was in the endgames.

My suggestion would be to make the nerf by level.
Level 2 rogues CLEARLY dont need a 10% debuff.
Level 46 rogues WOULD NEED a 10% debuff.

If the nerf system is like this then it would be ok for twink rogues IMO.

A level 5 rogue would have a hardtime against a level5 warrior and possible sure loss(diamonds and squirels are very op), but level 46 rogue would be a different story.

If you guys plays both endgame and twink I know you can relate to this.

Atleast somebody intelligent here got the point of this thread. It is not about endgame rogues. It is about how the nerf for endgame rogues affects rogues pvping at other levels.It is about low levels and we need pet damage boost to work or the nerf to scale according to level.

**sapdcroi** · 09-07-2015, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Earlingstad

Atleast somebody intelligent here got the point of this thread. It is not about endgame rogues. It is about how the nerf for endgame rogues affects rogues pvping at other levels.It is about low levels and we need pet damage boost to work or the nerf to scale according to level.

increase dmg curse mage and mage armor^^. we are food now^^

**canbolt** · 09-07-2015, 08:51 PM

Make the system back to normal how it was 1 year before!!!!!

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**Oursizes** · 09-07-2015, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by sapdcroi

increase dmg curse mage and mage armor^^. we are food now^^

No, youre bad at rotating skills. With an undergeared level 15 mage, using rubbit ive been able to kill some 14/15 arcane/para/nekro rogues and have draws with tanks(i.e battle goes forever and they end up wasting 5% of my battery

**sapdcroi** · 09-07-2015, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Oursizes

No, youre bad at rotating skills. With an undergeared level 15 mage, using rubbit ive been able to kill some 14/15 arcane/para/nekro rogues and have draws with tanks(i.e battle goes forever and they end up wasting 5% of my battery

do u mean mage is strong in pvp ?lol u need to learn about pvp. and my enemy become my fan. u need to know that. lol. take some picture u kill best player in your lvl with noob pet. maybe i will hear u^^. dont talk when u dont know

Originally Posted by canbolt

Make the system back to normal how it was 1 year before!!!!!

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yes i hope back 1 year ago. but it is late

**Dimitrian** · 09-07-2015, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by canbolt

Make the system back to normal how it was 1 year before!!!!!

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Just...no....

**Caabatric** · 09-07-2015, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by sapdcroi

do u mean mage is strong in pvp ?lol u need to learn about pvp. and my enemy become my fan. u need to know that. lol. take some picture u kill best player in your lvl with noob pet. maybe i will hear u^^. dont talk when u dont know

yes i hope back 1 year ago. but it is late

I don't think u realize just how op ribbit is, especially at low levels where crit is devastating....
That said mages are quite in no way op at low level, but far from need of buff.....

**yubaraj** · 09-07-2015, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Oursizes

No, youre bad at rotating skills. With an undergeared level 15 mage, using rubbit ive been able to kill some 14/15 arcane/para/nekro rogues and have draws with tanks(i.e battle goes forever and they end up wasting 5% of my battery

Oh really. Seems like you are pro of the pro.

If your claim is right about killing necro rogue using ribbit then I feel something is wrong in that fight.
BTW if mage vs warrior fights go forever. Mage will end up losing because mage will run out of mana. It depends on warrior built though.

**sapdcroi** · 09-08-2015, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Caabatric

I don't think u realize just how op ribbit is, especially at low levels where crit is devastating....
That said mages are quite in no way op at low level, but far from need of buff.....

im in 11. him said im bad in pvp. but in pvp i use vixen ribbit in gw. my ign godofwarvn. and i know all about mage curse

**yubaraj** · 09-08-2015, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by sapdcroi

im in 11. him said im bad in pvp. but in pvp i use vixen ribbit in gw. my ign godofwarvn. and i know all about mage curse

Let me ask you one thing.
You cursed one rogue and rogue attacked you with 1k dmg aimed shot while his normal damage stat is 150. How much damage curse gonna reflect to that rogue?