1.7 Content Update (55818)

**Corpser** · 03-16-2011, 06:06 AM

i did by because it was supposed to be permanent also it needs to be stashable and it will be annoying if i just wasted 15 plat when you nerft the drops -_-

**Echelong** · 03-16-2011, 07:22 AM

Well from what I experienced yesterday it is not a 25 or 35% it is more like a 10% chance of reroll or less. From all the drops we had only 2 people had the chance to reroll and it was for an orange item on BS levels. We got 4 pinks and none where because of the hat and we all 5 had the big luck hats.

Temporary or permanent I don't think this will affect either the game or economy as much as some people think at least from what I experienced. I grouped for a while with Mitsu, DT, Elly, Physio Rae and some others I was only for a couple of hours at most.

I want to ask all the players that have been farming if you truly had a reroll for a pink? and how many times you think you reroll for an item and how many if any where pink?

This isn't to start a debate just to see if we can get a bit more accurate information I am sure Physio and a few others are trying to check out the numbers.

**Yvonnel** · 03-16-2011, 07:28 AM

I going to throw my 2 cents in.

It really doesn't matter to me either way. I usually buy the holiday vanity items anyway. Yes the luck bonus is nice but I would habe bought it without the bonus. However, I ran the sewers last night while wearing it and you know what, no re-roll's for me in a little over 2 hours. I don't think the increase is going to make a huge difference in the amount of pinks that start showing up in the CS.

Thr second point I want to make is remember when the shadow caves were released. A small group started screaming for the devs to nerf the drop rates. Guess what they did. You know whay else, I didn't get to run the caves before the nerf except for 1 run and it was only the first 3 maps because of work. No one complained about the fairness to new players then. I never did get a full shadow set because I refuse to pay the prices listed in the CS (which I think are crazy - but thats another arguement).

Regardless, whatever the devs decide is fine with me. I love PL and its just one of the facts of life "You can't make everyone happy".

**noneo** · 03-16-2011, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Justg

Friends, players, and family of Pocket Legends� over several months, we�ve received suggestions and feedback about the Platinum prices of goods and services. I have to say, from the bottom of my heart, this is the most constructive and articulate community we�ve ever dealt with when trying to understand the changes you all feel are important.

In the past, prices have been somewhat arbitrary, but we think we have a good baseline to move forward with:

1. All Dungeon content will be 10 Platinum per campaign. We will continue to offer bundles that provide significant discounts.
2. Vanity and in-store items will typically range between 5 and 10 Platinum.

Platinum prices will not scale to become more expensive as player levels increase. This means as players level up and check the store for items they can use, they will know how much Platinum they can expect to spend on weapons, armor, etc., if interested.

This also means that although some lower level content areas or items may increase slightly in their Platinum costs, higher level content areas and items (including vanity) will drop significantly in price.

Going forward, players will know what to expect in terms of the store and its prices. Existing players will generally see several price reductions in content areas and items.

As with everything we do, these changes will be fluid and organic. We will continue to respond to your feedback and make adjustments to make the game as fun and enjoyable as possible.

Finally, we will be releasing a new campaign to raise the level cap to 55 very soon. In accordance with our new pricing plan, it will cost 10 platinum.

We will provide more details on this content release soon.

Thanks for playing!

Whatever happened to that statement?

**StompArtist** · 03-16-2011, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by noneo

Whatever happened to that statement?

Says "Typically" not always

**noneo** · 03-16-2011, 07:56 AM

Ah yes, the fine print

**Echelong** · 03-16-2011, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by noneo

Whatever happened to that statement?

just like Stomp said typically and since this is a limited item it will be more expensive than the others.

**Junside** · 03-16-2011, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Echelong

Well from what I experienced yesterday it is not a 25 or 35% it is more like a 10% chance of reroll or less. From all the drops we had only 2 people had the chance to reroll and it was for an orange item on BS levels. We got 4 pinks and none where because of the hat and we all 5 had the big luck hats.

Temporary or permanent I don't think this will affect either the game or economy as much as some people think at least from what I experienced. I grouped for a while with Mitsu, DT, Elly, Physio Rae and some others I was only for a couple of hours at most.

I want to ask all the players that have been farming if you truly had a reroll for a pink? and how many times you think you reroll for an item and how many if any where pink?

This isn't to start a debate just to see if we can get a bit more accurate information I am sure Physio and a few others are trying to check out the numbers.

I got a pink yesterday, and it was not as a result of a re-roll.

**Moogerfooger** · 03-16-2011, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by mastermindds3

Regardless, whatever the devs decide is fine with me. I love PL and its just one of the facts of life "You can't make everyone happy".

So very true. Well said.

**BeardedBear** · 03-16-2011, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Physiologic

Look guys, let's say this hat does turn permanent. What does that mean for the economy?

1. There will be more loot in the CS.
2. More loot means prices will be driven further down.
3. Players who farm extensively like me will get more drops, driving prices even further down.
4. Your earnings will be a fraction of what they were once worth.

Drop rates for pinks are already fair. If everyone has an increased chance of drops, your drops will be worth diddly.

15 Platinum is not worth a lot of money. It's at most 2 dollars.

And I'll be damned if I loot a MM bracer in the future with a permabonus on this hat only to have to sell it for 250k instead of 800k.

And no - people who pay Platinum should not have a distinct advantage over anyone else.

While you have some good points, they are all based on you not being as rich as you could be without this vanity hat.

Originally Posted by Physiologic

You have to remember that Halloween items and winter festival items and other discontinued items never had any type of bonus like this before (something that affects your drop rate). If a vanity hat gave you a permanent 2x damage boost and you missed out on it, how would you feel? So far STS has done a great job at preventing feelings like that but I can already imagine disappointment from future players when they realize they missed out on permanent drop rate bonuses. It just wasn't a big deal in the past if items were discontinued because you can easily buy replacement items - but this is a big deal.

And I don't get what the point of Hide Vanity is. Vanity items were created to hide real helms. What's the point in hiding something that's supposed to hide something? That doesn't solve the homogeneous problem, everyone will just be hatless then.

Halloween and other holiday items also had armor/hats/weapons and other items, and quite a few. This vanity hat is the only thing that we get for St.Patricks day (and I'm grateful for it, don''t get me wrong), so you can't really compare this to other holiday items. I think people would have been hesitant to buy a temporary 15 plat hat if they knew ahead of time.

This hat doesn't give that much of a re-roll chance. I farmed all yesterday and sure I got re-rolls, but no pinks. I don't think it's as serious as we are making it out to be.

**Lizardfeather** · 03-16-2011, 08:29 AM

Yes we are over-reacting a little bit, but I'm just thinking about what it leads to. Speed bonuses, luck bonuses, hit bonuses, skill bonuses, etc. It's just that you're going to almost NEED plat. for items you could do without.

**Ixillicus** · 03-16-2011, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Echelong

Well from what I experienced yesterday it is not a 25 or 35% it is more like a 10% chance of reroll or less. From all the drops we had only 2 people had the chance to reroll and it was for an orange item on BS levels. We got 4 pinks and none where because of the hat and we all 5 had the big luck hats.

Temporary or permanent I don't think this will affect either the game or economy as much as some people think at least from what I experienced. I grouped for a while with Mitsu, DT, Elly, Physio Rae and some others I was only for a couple of hours at most.

I want to ask all the players that have been farming if you truly had a reroll for a pink? and how many times you think you reroll for an item and how many if any where pink?

This isn't to start a debate just to see if we can get a bit more accurate information I am sure Physio and a few others are trying to check out the numbers.

I don't think it really adds much of a bonus. I've played for about 6 hours with it, doing pretty quick group runs and i've only seen a few re-rolls, and never for anything higher than green.

I am guessing that it's probably 5%, which is pretty minimal given the low rate of pink drops. I don't think this will have much of an impact if permanent. I feel like the market prices will be most influenced by the increasing number of level 50+ players in the game doing more runs in BS.

**Echelong** · 03-16-2011, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Ixillicus

I don't think it really adds much of a bonus. I've played for about 6 hours with it, doing pretty quick group runs and i've only seen a few re-rolls, and never for anything higher than green.

I am guessing that it's probably 5%, which is pretty minimal given the low rate of pink drops. I don't think this will have much of an impact if permanent. I feel like the market prices will be most influenced by the increasing number of level 50+ players in the game doing more runs in BS.

That is my guess even if its permanent but I really don't care if its permanent or temporary. If it was permanent I would like for devs to give us more variety of bonus from Vanity hats. This would solve the issue and I have an idea/suggestion for vanity hats that I will post later today, that could be implemented and it could help players as well as developers.

**Dahitman** · 03-16-2011, 10:09 AM

Will there be a item set bonus for level 55 sewer king (Archer) set?

**KaotiicxDream** · 03-16-2011, 10:14 AM

Is there any set bonusses for the new gear yet? Sewer and Fury/Raid/Mega?

**Echelong** · 03-16-2011, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Dahitman

Will there be a item set bonus for level 55 sewer king (Archer) set?

I am waiting for it too. And new items as well we still need 1h weapons and shields for those sets.

**Tsarra** · 03-16-2011, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by BeardedBear

While you have some good points, they are all based on you not being as rich as you could be without this vanity hat.

Yup...you always have to keep basic economics in mind. I'm a relatively new player, and I have already purchased this hat because it slightly improves my drop rate. Someone who has an enormous collection of pinks already has a motivation to keep something like this completely out of PL, whereas someone like me (I have like a dozen high level pinks) welcomes an item like this.

I have a feeling that the older players' opinions on this topic are a little biased...but this is the nature of an economic system like PL has, with the fixed items. If we had random items, people would probably be whining a lot less right now.

Originally Posted by Echelong

That is my guess even if its permanent but I really don't care if its permanent or temporary. If it was permanent I would like for devs to give us more variety of bonus from Vanity hats. This would solve the issue and I have an idea/suggestion for vanity hats that I will post later today, that could be implemented and it could help players as well as developers.

Also, they DID ask on another thread if we've been keeping all of our antenna...I haven't had an opportunity to get many of them (I have one), but I imagine all the oldies have a whole set or damned near. You don't think there will be some awesome bonus for those? And I guarantee I'll be left out of that. Will I whine? Probably not.

*sigh* PL people. Here's my thought: leave this in the game, as is. The rich in PL (some of whom I certainly respect) are damned rich enough, and do not need one more red cent. You have people with 3000 items in game and characters that can't even leave town anymore! This is a mobile game, and anything I can do to expand the amount of progress I make in the 10 or so minutes I play it is awesome (yes...10 minutes). This is not WoW. Quit acting like it is.