That's exactly how I felt! You guys definitely taught me that I can be so much more aggressive with my bird. Pot spamming is fun, but living on that edge of "I think I'm going to definitely die now" has its high! Thanks Physiologic, Moogerfooger, Mitsuisun, and Fnordic (Royce) for those epic runs! BTW, congrats on 56, Royce!
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Another thing I should point out - when I am already in position, I use skills as soon as the combos allow me to. Ideally, you will already be in position when you fire your first volley and will remain in position after that. The hard part is holding position long enough because you aren't as durable as a bear.
Yeah that's the worst part of being squishy, if I feel I'm surrounded by mobs and my party isn't close enough to assist, I run back just a bit so I'm "within" the party mass. Gotta have the other players take a few hits for me too
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For mage, it depends. First, heal is actually worth something. So is drain life. If you have mana shield, that buys you some time. The question is, can you last long enough to cast a series of spells? Against the bandit boys, in most cases, the answer is yes. Against those green mutant things in the catacombs, a sustained bombardment will kill very rapidly, so fire one volley and fall back.
If your health bar is going down very rapidly, that's the only time I gobble pots. The majority of deaths these days I find come from vent accidents, one hit KOs (try fighting the king and queen together - watch what the queen does: lightning), or situations where your hp bar goes down so fast that you can't hit the health pot button.
@Phys:
A great idea would be to make a vid of each BS stage, with a full team of archers, a mage and a bear.
That would give ppl an idea regarding the tactics both for the stage and the char they are playing with.
Assemble your team and off you go to recording on that pepsi can ;]
Back to topic:
1 very important skill to develop is aggro+pull with a bird.
Try to cover as much an area as possible with shatter scream in order to grab a massive combo. While moving, of course.
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ooh, good idea. I'd like to have a little visual reference on how I'm supposed to run with a bunch of archers. Also, getting tired of getting lip from them. :\ I can just say "hey, sucka bird, I'm playing like so-and-so on Physiologic's teams. You're dying because YOU suck, not me. Now stop chatting about drops/running way ahead/etc etc. and stay around my mage/behind my bear."
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@tengo:
I discussed the matter with another player today. And I quote (myself) - "I sometimes lol at my own majestic noobness".
It's really hard to switch styles to adjust to new players after you've been doing runs with another team for hours.
Furthermore, it's hard to concentrate on a harder map when you're tired (I concentrate most of the time on grinding to lv56).
And yes, when I join in that state, I die. Miserably. ;]
Do I care? If it's with good players I usually run with, then yes. Kindda.
If it's with 1-run-stand players? Then hell no.
Remember. You're playing for the fun of it. Nothing more, nothing less (unless, tengo, you have a separate plan?)
;]
Back to the topic:
It's not how you're supposed to run with a bunch of archers, but more like tips and hints, how to play with a different player setup, on each map which is specific in nature.
It's how you take advantage of other players, and your surroundings in order to make the most damage. It IS called PvEnvironment for a reason, isn't it?
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what happened to videos of our cyber / mystery / Ao2-3 gear runs
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Mitsuisun Lv56 full dex bird | Mitsuimoon lv56 full int mage | Mitsuistar str/dex bearOriginally Posted by MITSUISUN
I haven't uploaded them, I will when I get home today
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I predict the videos have Mitsuisun dying more than anyone else. I bet one million Jolly Ranchers.
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I like how in hideout #2 run, it says no elixers used when fnordic is using one.
I would also like to know, why do you excessively press the attack button when its on auto?
whats the difference? it isn't going to go any faster....
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At the rate runs go for us, enemies die so fast that I repeatedly tap auto-attack because once an enemy dies, auto-attack stops. I don't spam-tap auto-attack all the time, only in situations when I know that enemies will die fast. That way I ensure there is no human lag time in-between attacking one enemy with another It may seem like an annoyance to do but I believe it does help out the party overall, at the expense of sweaty, tired fingers.
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Physio, hope to see some more of your videos.
BTW, it was nice running with you the other night. Look forward to some more runs.
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Very nice recording and ign play/
but some things i didnt like:
- your skill tree is a bit weird, not quick access to aoe combos and skills( maybe just the way i like to playu, pvp)
- your spam alot of the time, better to wait for things like scream blast or wall and blast for good aoe combos
- lastly bears are a great impact on most of my games they do massive pulls like ellyidol
Haha I know the skill map looks messy, but the layout is on purpose:
I describe how it's used in section V in my archer guide.
Also, it's better to spam when enemies are around but I do try to Cruel Blast and place Thorn Wall right before a huge mob. Of course it's not perfect placement all the time since I try to attack as fast as possible, but I'm sure mages that have run with me see Nature Strike quite often.
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