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    Default PvP Demo Suggestion( Must see )

    SERIOUSLY, NO JOKE READ WHAT IS BELOW BEFORE YOU COMMENT.

    I made this quick presentation (about 4 hours or so?... most of that effort was cutting out items to make them transparent)
    animation, and it should be self explanatory.
    Basically, it makes Host Matches, AND PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM HACKING THEIR K/D or getting onto the leaderboards un-legit. Its all natural, and will be a huge improvement.
    ALSO IT WORKS INCREDIBLY WELL ON CTF, where when u join its like 0-5 goals because no one is in the game but him.
    Any thumbs up on this?

    If you don't have anything good to say, don't say it! Only constructive criticism PLEASE.
    VIEW IT IN 1080p


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4JyA...layer_embedded


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    Can you explain what is going on a little better, for us non-PvPers who are not so familiar with what you are trying to show?
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    This is great!
    But we really need more participation in pvp altogether if this is going to get any participation
    +1 definitely
    And +2 for the pretzel reference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    This is great!
    But we really need more participation in pvp altogether if this is going to get any participation
    +1 definitely
    And +2 for the pretzel reference
    Last edited by Frenzyn; 03-27-2011 at 09:03 PM.

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    Ah, gotcha thanks. Looks like good suggestions. Hilarious that you have Physiologic on there.

    Kossi, a lot of us don't participate in PvP because of the flaws in it now....but if the GCD and maybe some updates like Frenzyn is suggesting here happened and make it better, more of us PvE-ers would try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogerfooger View Post
    Ah, gotcha thanks. Looks like good suggestions. Hilarious that you have Physiologic on there.

    Kossi, a lot of us don't participate in PvP because of the flaws in it now....but if the GCD and maybe some updates like Frenzyn is suggesting here happened and make it better, more of us PvE-ers would try it out.
    Physiologic gave me permission to, Kossi didn't but i thought he wouldn't mind.
    Also, i might want to add that the game countdown from 10 starts when everyone in the game lobby is there.
    it gives them 10 seconds to vote after the party is full


    This also prevents a bunch of games with 1 person in them hoping for people.
    and it prevents leaderboards manipulating. Does anyone honestly want them to believe their k/d ratio is 13k?
    Obviously fake, to be honest.

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    +1


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    Definitely prevents people from jumping in unexpectedly and makes kill boosting much harder since it would require a full 6 people to make a match. It may limit the amount of total PvP games made though, and especially those 1v1 matches that some people play (legit) as well.

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    OMFG THIS IS THE BEST I LOVE YOU FRENZYN!!!! This is my pvp heaven.. i swear! so organized.. /faint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    Definitely prevents people from jumping in unexpectedly and makes kill boosting much harder since it would require a full 6 people to make a match. It may limit the amount of total PvP games made though, and especially those 1v1 matches that some people play (legit) as well.
    Well 3v3 isn't the only gametype available for this, there could be
    Something like 1v1 cage match. The idea is to make a game, then on that list where u go and join pvp matches now
    You join the lobby. Then it starts. There could be 1v1 added also.
    And no joining matxhes unless players quit.

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    LOVE IT! It's kinda like what I was suggesting, but how would it work if theres no-one on? Does it mean you'd have to wait on that screen? If you could sign up for the matches,and get sent to that screen when theres enough players then you could maybe check the CS while your waiting, and perhaps to avoid interrupting games by suddenly leaving, maybe only be allowed to stay in the que while your in a town?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrobane View Post
    LOVE IT! It's kinda like what I was suggesting, but how would it work if theres no-one on? Does it mean you'd have to wait on that screen? If you could sign up for the matches,and get sent to that screen when theres enough players then you could maybe check the CS while your waiting, and perhaps to avoid interrupting games by suddenly leaving, maybe only be allowed to stay in the que while your in a town?
    If there was no one one, there could be a command possibly for the host to manually start the game on his map vote choice.

    But i don't see a problem with waiting a minute when no one was in the game in the first place, you'd just be waiting eitherway.
    And i also suggestion,
    1v1- Cage match (First to 10)
    2v2 - Wingman (First to 15)
    3v3 Team Deathmatch (firt to 15)
    5v5 - Big Team Deathmatch (first to 25) <--- I honestly think this might never get used.

    But also with the smaller choice groups of 1,2,and 3 it should still maintain the amount of games at a time, because of lower players, possibly even more.
    Also if they added pvp armour + upgrades, i think pvp would take a huge bargain to pvp.
    Last edited by Frenzyn; 03-28-2011 at 03:01 PM.

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    +1 - I like the vote for map - thats awesome.

    I think this is a great idea. A few additions:

    1. Allow host to select "level range" vs the auto +/-5. Huge differnece when you have lvl 20 vs 25 or lvl 15 vs 20. Lvl 19-23 would be more realistic for example.
    2. Instead of it being an FFA, make it where its single elimination per ROUND. Ie: 1 round = all of one team dead. This will encourage team players vs people just trying to rack up kills.

    Would be awesome if PL had a "tournament map" where you could have spectators and go in a "winner take next" order. Ie: 1 vs 1, when winner wins, next runner up spawns to fight and winner is recharged with full health & mana. All spectators are "outside of the boundary" and can only watch. This could allow the game to host 20 players or so.

    I bet PL makes the majority of its sales to PVP players but yet spends most of its time trying to attract PVE people. Textbook example of a poor business plan. If the game was more PVP oriented it would have a much more profitable and long term business plan.

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    Phys doesnt play PvP ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaotiicxDream View Post
    Phys doesnt play PvP ?
    yes.

    he should pvp before making comments on a pvp thread...
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    That. Is. AWESOME!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    yes.

    he should pvp before making comments on a pvp thread...
    Yep u r right xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    yes.

    he should pvp before making comments on a pvp thread...
    Quote Originally Posted by KaotiicxDream View Post
    Yep u r right xD
    Don't insult phys. :\

    He might not pvp, but he has no reason to now with all the problems. He knows
    what he is talking about.... Please do not disrepect him.
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    I like how u planned out how the main screen was going to look like. But, like some ppl said the gcd needs to b fixed on pvp because of 2 second fights. Plus all the other errors. If those r fixed, then your idea will get more goes for more ppl. Plus i dont think demo version is needed because there is already a free pvp. Your idea sounds great and i hve high hopes of your idea making it into pl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon97 View Post
    I like how u planned out how the main screen was going to look like. But, like some ppl said the gcd needs to b fixed on pvp because of 2 second fights. Plus all the other errors. If those r fixed, then your idea will get more goes for more ppl. Plus i dont think demo version is needed because there is already a free pvp. Your idea sounds great and i hve high hopes of your idea making it into pl.
    Demo as in a planning type thing, not the read deal at all. It means like a suggestion in a compact video type way somewhat of a presentation. and thank you VERY much! your input is greatly appreciated.

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    +2. Epic win and a must
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    I love all your ideas. +1
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    this is a great idea. +3 forum points.
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