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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronB View Post
    Trying to give some ideas and keeping it constructive.

    Again no idea why constantly bitter or so dismissive either… rather strange.

    Total APs
    AVG APs per member
    APs earnt per week
    Average Account Age
    Guild Age
    1/3/7/15/30 active login (min 1h login)
    Seasonal Banner Rank
    Event Banner Count rank


    That’s 12 different factors that guilds could be ranked on alone the last 2 being ones you couldn’t factor in just yet however the rest we could already get info on to use as factors for ranking guilds.

    Only trying to make fair and coherent points whilst the window of opportunity is still open to suggest changes.

    Not looking to give my guild any sort of additional leverage in the rankings either as don’t need them… already done it with previous perimeters can just do it again so it makes no difference in that regard

    Thank you if your thinking of me as some kind of “Saint”…

    Just trying to keep things as fair and worthwhile as possible as the previous way tho seems simple once you knew how wasn’t all that easy and still more challenging then what’s been put on offer now.

    Sure giving away gold to drive the pve numbers, threat of kicks for not raising APs, dedicating teams and driving pvp kills for those bs to get APs, offering banner runs as prizes to help boost count, allowing toxic people in because of stats, kicking out members/friends who havnt logged in a long time whos stats would have also been low but are actually really nice people… with the kicks also giving lower members so better averages…

    Yeah some rather shady stuff indeed or morally grey but not illegal all to get that top spot and after achieving, the burn out after from pushing for it so aggressively for and what it cost in terms of mistakes and friends is why not interested down that path again.

    Want to tell me your so morally pure yourself with what you might be/not be aware of goings on under your own roof.

    This isn’t some slander match for you to be trying to throw stones especially when living in a glass house, I may have been absent for the last several months but both of us as and our guilds are nearly as old as this game so I don’t doubt you hear and know plenty and worth remembering so do I.

    So please, grow up and go outside and touch the grass a little and as you so eloquently put it… “spare us, enough bs.” ..


    Let’s keep things on topic shall we

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    You want it to be in top 1 even if it is quite inactive.
    It is nothing more than a whim.
    On the other hand the pvp, pve, etc. They are quite redundant things, because they are already included in the aps.
    With the average discouraging to recruit people and activity.
    The age of a guild or account is just a privilege over new people. And outside of the Lb. It is not a factor that can be changed.
    It's like starting an event Lb with tier platinum because your account is old.
    It is not fair, nor competitive, it does not represent anything, only that you downloaded the game on that date and created a guild, seniority does not guarantee that you are better.
    The banners, the same, work quarterly, they go out of the week, and they already have their own Lb and prizes.
    1, 3, 7 days active could work.

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