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    Quote Originally Posted by Squlo View Post
    Sorry about that got distracted lol

    1- Yeah it's pretty obvious and honestly there is no way a beginner wanna start to play this due to the damage gap between some levels and it's almost impossible to expect from someone to grind till endgame without them asking/begging for help unless they start paying the game

    2- Honestly this is all about the absurd procs and especially damage multipliers we got in the game. Idk how many times i asked for to nerf them but well if they don't then im gonna give you credit for tank part which is that you cant make something tanky and deal like godlike damage at the same time.

    3- Well that part is fine for me so pass

    4- Well they killed it and I wonder when they will realize that PvP players were also needing and buying gears to play in maps so i still don't get the part why they thought ignoring PvP was a good idea for them lol. We were fine having a single weapon proc and rock around.
    Exactly! You summed it up perfectly. The damage gap is insane, and expecting new players to grind through that without paying is just unrealistic. And yeah, PvP players were still part of the economy, ignoring them only hurt the game overall. It’s wild how they don’t see that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaAnas View Post
    Bro nobody is stalking you, someone who is constantly in auc for arcane awaked - cant tell the problem of grinding a Lb Top 5 for a week, seeing his Lb party is looting one by one a 400m Stone, one even 3 and keep grinding it until you release - they just messing with you. I dont say you are wrong by doing your merchs but its not what this game supposed to be.
    I didn't even mention lb or loot during events, I just don't agree with the high gold influx, that's my opinion, whether you like it or not, won't change it, I don't care about lb, I don't care about the drop rate of x or y during the event, but it's a fact: if the jewel drop was easy, it wouldn't cost 400m, if running lb was easy, vanitys of lb wouldn't be reaching the billions.

    I don't have time to reach the top 10, I don't like remapping the same thing over and over again, but I like to invest, everyone does what they like.

    But when the subject involves aspects that are precious to the game community, it is necessary to talk, I'm not afraid to come out and say that gold loot in my opinion needs to be nerfed, even though I know I'll get hate for it.

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    It Is the negative tone of the post and complaining about everything. The game is more fun now than ever. Gold farming is at an all time high. You can PvP at many lvls and many of them require very little gold to jump in. Have you tried 76?

    I recommend that you stick to a single complaint in future posts, if you hate the game so much there are other games that might better suit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mely Original View Post
    APS supposed to be an "achievement" ? Leaderboard is a ranking of who can afford it. Might as well rename the "Top Players" to "Top Richs"

    Ridiculous.

    Aps: 20 Heroic, 20 Arcane, 20 Mythic, 20 Legendary (100 Total for max aps)

    Heroic Pet Evolution Lev 1-7
    2700 Plat / average 100 Points ~ 12m
    + 20 Mill Gold
    Heroic Pet:
    1 Pet ~ 344 Mil.
    20 Pets ~ 6,88 Bil.

    Arcane Pet Evolution
    3400 Plat / average 100 Pts ~ 15 m
    + 50,1 m
    Arcane Pet:
    1 Pet ~ 560,1 Mil
    20 ~ 11,2 Bil

    Mythic Pet Evolution
    2000 Plat ~ 10 m
    + 10,3 m
    1 Pet ~ 210,3m
    20 Pet ~ 4,2 b

    Legendary Pet Evolution
    1300 Plat ~ 10m ea
    + 5,1 m
    1 Pet ~ 135,1 Mil
    20 Pets ~ 2,7 Bil

    80 Pets (20 Heroic, 20 Arcane, 20 Mythic, 20 Legendary) (Still 20 missing for total aps)
    = ~ 24,98 Bil
    24 980 000 000

    Y'all trolling lol


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    Yeah this one really annoyed me. This is such a high dollar attached to it that none of the LB folks are not even doing it. I would love for them to revamp the cost of this- it's really out of reach for all of us. Good point here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanmiguels View Post
    It Is the negative tone of the post and complaining about everything. The game is more fun now than ever. Gold farming is at an all time high. You can PvP at many lvls and many of them require very little gold to jump in. Have you tried 76?

    I recommend that you stick to a single complaint in future posts, if you hate the game so much there are other games that might better suit you.


    Obv rage bait post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caabarader View Post
    I didn't even mention lb or loot during events, I just don't agree with the high gold influx, that's my opinion, whether you like it or not, won't change it, I don't care about lb, I don't care about the drop rate of x or y during the event, but it's a fact: if the jewel drop was easy, it wouldn't cost 400m, if running lb was easy, vanitys of lb wouldn't be reaching the billions.

    I don't have time to reach the top 10, I don't like remapping the same thing over and over again, but I like to invest, everyone does what they like.

    But when the subject involves aspects that are precious to the game community, it is necessary to talk, I'm not afraid to come out and say that gold loot in my opinion needs to be nerfed, even though I know I'll get hate for it.
    Ah yes, the classic "i don’t play the game, but let me tell you how it should work" take. You don’t grind, don’t farm, don’t compete, just sit back and flip items, then act like you’re the economy expert. The game isn’t just a stock market simulator, some of us actually play it. For someone who ‘doesn’t care’ about so many things, you sure have a lot to say. Funny how the only thing you do care about is your own wallet. There’s a whole community keeping this game alive, and if nobody played, nobody would be buying your overpriced awakenings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanmiguels View Post
    It Is the negative tone of the post and complaining about everything. The game is more fun now than ever. Gold farming is at an all time high. You can PvP at many lvls and many of them require very little gold to jump in. Have you tried 76?

    I recommend that you stick to a single complaint in future posts, if you hate the game so much there are other games that might better suit you.
    Actually I play Warframe more than a year now (returned after a long break) and it's goated give it a try i think you can even farm platinum there lol
    Just so you to know it's Squlo/Fair/Slifer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanmiguels View Post
    It Is the negative tone of the post and complaining about everything. The game is more fun now than ever. Gold farming is at an all time high. You can PvP at many lvls and many of them require very little gold to jump in. Have you tried 76?

    I recommend that you stick to a single complaint in future posts, if you hate the game so much there are other games that might better suit you.
    Seems like you didn’t even bother reading the post, huh? You’re out here talking about things I never mentioned and trying to act like I’m just complaining. Maybe take a second to actually read what’s being said before spitting nonsense. This isn’t about ‘hating the game,’ it’s about calling out the obvious flaws that affect everyone, not just your little perfect game. But sure, keep defending everything blindly while the game goes downhill. You can play your so "fun" game cause players like us investing in it so you can actually enjoy it. So its fair for us to mention flaws. This is how games improve. I play this since 2012 and ive never, mentioned anything until now. We having adults conversation here. At least if you want to be involved try to be more relevant. "Complaint" lol you must be trolling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mely Original View Post
    Ah yes, the classic "i don’t play the game, but let me tell you how it should work" take. You don’t grind, don’t farm, don’t compete, just sit back and flip items, then act like you’re the economy expert. The game isn’t just a stock market simulator, some of us actually play it. For someone who ‘doesn’t care’ about so many things, you sure have a lot to say. Funny how the only thing you do care about is your own wallet. There’s a whole community keeping this game alive, and if nobody played, nobody would be buying your overpriced awakenings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by caabarader View Post
    Hey, you the one complaining, but I understand the rage. I speak because I know and because I can.
    Ah, because clearly, you speak with such wisdom… but honestly, you sound more like you’re just trying to sound important. Maybe if you actually understood the issue, you’d stop parroting the same tired lines and start listening. But hey, keep running your mouth, it’s adorable how you think your opinion holds weight in a conversation you clearly didn’t even understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mely Original View Post
    Ah, because clearly, you speak with such wisdom… but honestly, you sound more like you’re just trying to sound important. Maybe if you actually understood the issue, you’d stop parroting the same tired lines and start listening. But hey, keep running your mouth, it’s adorable how you think your opinion holds weight in a conversation you clearly didn’t even understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by caabarader View Post
    You the one giving me attention bud, shouldn't I feel important?
    Attention? You are aware that's my own post right? Maybe next time, actually read before you comment, so you don’t embarrass yourself trying to act like you’re adding something valuable. Dw, i won’t let your 5 minutes of fame go to waste. And yes, you should feel important. It’s not every day you get the privilege of talking to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mely Original View Post
    Ah yes, the classic "i don’t play the game, but let me tell you how it should work" take. You don’t grind, don’t farm, don’t compete, just sit back and flip items, then act like you’re the economy expert. The game isn’t just a stock market simulator, some of us actually play it. For someone who ‘doesn’t care’ about so many things, you sure have a lot to say. Funny how the only thing you do care about is your own wallet. There’s a whole community keeping this game alive, and if nobody played, nobody would be buying your overpriced awakenings.


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    Thats so true - you can do your merch but when you dont play the game then you shouldnt really talk about it. When you just flip items and awakes. She is right - when all would just merch, no need for awakes tho

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    all posts are negative for obvious reasons. if you DONT see why people be making these posts your brain is the problem and ppr merchant nabs stay out dont even play game and waste ur time on this mobile game xd

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    Merchants won't want anything to change in the game because current state benefits them so from the gameplay point of view their opinions shouldn't even be taken into consideration here. lol

    In terms of everything you stated in the OP Mel I'll give my 2 cents:

    1. Pay to win is heavily inflicted within this game's culture and it probably will remain like that for the sake of well... game making money. While AL doesn't really have that much predatory tactics (e.g Diablo Immortal) into shoving into people's eyes new content that can be easily accessible through purchases (currency) as getting the gears from the chests it is obvious that having a consistent rotation of gears locked behind the paywall makes it unbearable sometimes to keep up with having decent equipment to play the game. Reached the point where best gold loot set was straight up listed for 50$ in the store, therefore developers likely know what they're doing in terms of milking the community. Think it's first time when I saw Arcane weapons for tanks (Rusk blade or Blood chain) to be more expensive than any rogue weapon. In terms of gold; People are mad driven by gold loot anywhere at any time - Indigo is a wonderland at the moment.

    2. The gap between classes usefulness got slightly closed with the release of Blood star artifacts but then again yeah while all classes are OK in the state of pve, tank is the one thats benefitting the most out of every game adjustments as of right now.

    3. I've mentioned that above and yeah I agree. We went from having a decent set of arcane items for a long period of time (Kraken items) that could be upgraded over the time with awakes (well striving to get the better awakes at least) into Gear overload in terms of mythic, set and arcane items all at once. Some items being released as event exclusives unavailable to obtain later causing the said item (for example Rusk weapons) to skyrocket in prices. When eventually someone finally manage to obtain such weapon then there's something else being dropped either forcing you to spend money or making you spend time to farm the gold for it. Circle never ends, hell loop remains and it's been like that for a while now.

    4.The Pvp decline has been rapidly happening for long time now. Current pvp (not honor) is just about who procs first just to run around with all the items turned on and killing people before they can even react or defend themselves. While I'm not saying there isn't a skill factor to it (there's always someone that will just take advantage of it better than others) it's just not it for many people and I believe Pvp was most fun without having every item in your set to proc a different buff just for you to get a kill.
    In terms of class balance everyone know that tank can run up to rogue, slam the blood chain on the floor once and what rogue can do is just pick up the broken ribs off the floor and crawl to the corner screaming to stop.
    Some people still like to mess around in CTF and I don't really understand why has the map been put into requirement of having 10 people to open. It used to be 2 or 3 on each side long ago and I don't recall that was ever the problem. Removing the flag aps was basically reasoned by people saying that they can't access the rooms to do the flagging so instead of just letting people have the rooms open easier achievements themselves got removed. I mean it clearly states where developers stance is in this topic.

    That being side I don't really see anything changing in the game model any soon, as long as there will be people being okay dropping money on the game in its current state we'll have what we have right now.
    Once again, just to remind: Merchants have No say in terms of game development unless they speak on something that's related to actual gameplay, rather than hoarding 999x of something to sell it for triple that after a month or two. That's not gameplay, that's just system exploiting based on crippling economy.

    Tl;dr - Not much will change, people are upset, problems are obvious and visible but since there's money happening it's all good - but not for the "non-investing" playerbase.

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    After reading this, I feel like Im investing in the wrong game then. 6 months in. Hmm.. I think I need to decide whether I’ll be in here longer.. is the 160k plats worth it..

    Questions.. questions.. what ifs..

    But the vanities are so pretty..

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Merchants won't want anything to change in the game because current state benefits them so from the gameplay point of view their opinions shouldn't even be taken into consideration here. lol

    In terms of everything you stated in the OP Mel I'll give my 2 cents:

    1. Pay to win is heavily inflicted within this game's culture and it probably will remain like that for the sake of well... game making money. While AL doesn't really have that much predatory tactics (e.g Diablo Immortal) into shoving into people's eyes new content that can be easily accessible through purchases (currency) as getting the gears from the chests it is obvious that having a consistent rotation of gears locked behind the paywall makes it unbearable sometimes to keep up with having decent equipment to play the game. Reached the point where best gold loot set was straight up listed for 50$ in the store, therefore developers likely know what they're doing in terms of milking the community. Think it's first time when I saw Arcane weapons for tanks (Rusk blade or Blood chain) to be more expensive than any rogue weapon. In terms of gold; People are mad driven by gold loot anywhere at any time - Indigo is a wonderland at the moment.

    2. The gap between classes usefulness got slightly closed with the release of Blood star artifacts but then again yeah while all classes are OK in the state of pve, tank is the one thats benefitting the most out of every game adjustments as of right now.

    3. I've mentioned that above and yeah I agree. We went from having a decent set of arcane items for a long period of time (Kraken items) that could be upgraded over the time with awakes (well striving to get the better awakes at least) into Gear overload in terms of mythic, set and arcane items all at once. Some items being released as event exclusives unavailable to obtain later causing the said item (for example Rusk weapons) to skyrocket in prices. When eventually someone finally manage to obtain such weapon then there's something else being dropped either forcing you to spend money or making you spend time to farm the gold for it. Circle never ends, hell loop remains and it's been like that for a while now.

    4.The Pvp decline has been rapidly happening for long time now. Current pvp (not honor) is just about who procs first just to run around with all the items turned on and killing people before they can even react or defend themselves. While I'm not saying there isn't a skill factor to it (there's always someone that will just take advantage of it better than others) it's just not it for many people and I believe Pvp was most fun without having every item in your set to proc a different buff just for you to get a kill.
    In terms of class balance everyone know that tank can run up to rogue, slam the blood chain on the floor once and what rogue can do is just pick up the broken ribs off the floor and crawl to the corner screaming to stop.
    Some people still like to mess around in CTF and I don't really understand why has the map been put into requirement of having 10 people to open. It used to be 2 or 3 on each side long ago and I don't recall that was ever the problem. Removing the flag aps was basically reasoned by people saying that they can't access the rooms to do the flagging so instead of just letting people have the rooms open easier achievements themselves got removed. I mean it clearly states where developers stance is in this topic.

    That being side I don't really see anything changing in the game model any soon, as long as there will be people being okay dropping money on the game in its current state we'll have what we have right now.
    Once again, just to remind: Merchants have No say in terms of game development unless they speak on something that's related to actual gameplay, rather than hoarding 999x of something to sell it for triple that after a month or two. That's not gameplay, that's just system exploiting based on crippling economy.

    Tl;dr - Not much will change, people are upset, problems are obvious and visible but since there's money happening it's all good - but not for the "non-investing" playerbase.
    Finally, someone who actually gets it! You summed up everything perfectly. This game has turned into a never ending cycle of paywalls, gear resets.. PvP is a joke, merchants hoarding and inflating prices isn’t “gameplay,” and the devs clearly know what they’re doing with these overpriced, limited-time releases. And yeah, as long as people keep dropping cash without questioning anything, nothing’s gonna change.

    Really appreciate your insight, this is the kind of discussion the game needs, not the usual clueless defenses from people who refuse to see the bigger picture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunaxe View Post
    After reading this, I feel like Im investing in the wrong game then. 6 months in. Hmm.. I think I need to decide whether I’ll be in here longer.. is the 160k plats worth it..

    Questions.. questions.. what ifs..

    But the vanities are so pretty..
    Haha yes they are.

    In all honesty, the reason most people are still here isn’t the game itself, it’s the community. People have grown up together, built solid friendships, and shared years of memories. That’s why so many keep coming back, not because of the mechanics or the updates, but for the people they’ve connected with. The game might not always be worth it, but the friendships?

    That’s a different story. Someone had to say it.


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    I am kinda new to forums and Game but I am pretty confused if it's a Suggestion post to Devs or People fighting over lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorgrind View Post
    I am kinda new to forums and Game but I am pretty confused if it's a Suggestion post to Devs or People fighting over lol.

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    Meant to be a suggestion to the devs but obviously it got out of hand, sorry you had to read that homie ^.^


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