So what exactly do you all want? Do you want STS to make legendary items available to purchase for plat? Do you want drops to no longer be random and instead you get an OCD every 50 times you kill a boss, and have all drops be a timed non-random occurrence?
In my opinion that would make the game suck as it would become too predictable and would no longer be fun for me. Part of what makes the game fun is the surprise of not knowing what you will get.
randomness works better, as evidenced by slot machines in casinos.Originally Posted by Energizeric
However, diamonds are just crafting components that dont do anything else so maybe a slight loosening up of the drop ratios might alleviate the frustration of many players and reduce the ridiculous prices for them in CS.
Do agree that plat buyers keep the game progressing. I can't argue with that.
So really ya if we're helping to pay for further developing we should feal like we are entitled to a little more than the average play for free player.
Thing is you are. Even in the scope of this thread, you are. How many times did you or Yao get the CHANCE for a drop. Thrashed in Bash, you'd get 5 or more chances for a drop in the same amount of time it takes me to get ONE chance, and each chance has a chance to reroll. That's quite a bit more than "entitled to a little more". To me, 5x the chances and 35%(?) reroll chance is a whole heluva lot more than someone that didn't pay for that opportunity.
Even in the regular maps, it takes, what?, 3 minutes for a thrasher group to clear a map as opposed to almost 10 for a normal group?
I'm not complaining about plat, not whining about plat, not saying plat is unfair or gives too much advantage. Just making the point that you can't buy luck, even if you can buy a LOT more opportunities to use that luck. But if someone comes here and vents about it, it pretty much says "I WANT THINGS HANDED TO ME BECAUSE I PAID REAL MONEY"
Last edited by trunzoc; 07-19-2012 at 03:18 PM.
Omg why can't I thank this post right now.
You've summed it up perfectly in a way the should be able to understand
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I've had to buy all my gear for the last 3-4 campaigns lol so don't don't feel bad. It's not just you.
I can't see why they can't make it like MF; making components easier to farm, but keeping the base items rare enough so there'll be plenty of satisfaction from just getting the base drop. Crafted sets were as rare as they needed to be for its time period, and eventually the majority of the people felt the satisfaction of having a crafted set.
I'm not sure about others, but no satisfaction for me to have what the majority of people have. Satisfaction for me is working very hard over time to obtain what everyone else does NOT have.
I did not start playing PL until January of this year, so the Humania expansion is the first I have been a part of, but I can tell you that as I leveled up, I never had any desire to have a Crafted Orlok set as they are everywhere. However, I did have a desire to have a Demonic set. Am I upset that I never was able to? Not at all. If it were too easy, I would no longer want it. Nothing that comes easy is appreciated. When you work hard for something and then get it, you really appreciate it.
Last edited by Energizeric; 07-19-2012 at 04:04 PM.
light bulb!!!!!!
You guys are getting too heated over this, give the guy a break...hes going thru a drought which all of us have experienced. Like he said, he's just venting his frustration...nothing else, he didn't say he wanted everything handed to him....or be able to buy with platinum...then like you said theres no challenge & the game would be boring/suck. Making the drops rare is good for the game but it can be tough when you're the one not getting anything after hundreds of runs. You have to just keep going because luck does change every once in a while...you get a lucky roll going.
i think with this....it also depends on how hard do you think is hard....every player has a different definition of toughness, like i said....what we are looking for is the satisfaction of recieving that item, and every expansion is only for a short amount of 5-6 months.
i am gonna have to agree with Ryder, i think mount fang was perfect, we still had to work "hard"(in my opinion) for the sets, and when i got it, i was very happy about it.
Its cool to hear that a veteran on the forums/in-game has struggled with pink drops, crafting mats...and had to buy all their stuff in the CS. Like you said, your not the only one struggling to get what they want. Hope your luck gets better, I had to buy a lot of stuff too. It cost me a ton of gold to buy the Gold dragon armor & helm....plus Ocean blue diamonds in Humania.
[QUOTE=trunzoc;716299]Do agree that plat buyers keep the game progressing. I can't argue with that.
So really ya if we're helping to pay for further developing we should feal like we are entitled to a little more than the average play for free player.
to be honest, i do not totally agree with this sentence here, i think all players in PL strive the game. keeps the game alive.
Thing is you are. Even in the scope of this thread, you are. How many times did you or Yao get the CHANCE for a drop. Thrashed in Bash, you'd get 5 or more chances for a drop in the same amount of time it takes me to get ONE chance, and each chance has a chance to reroll. That's quite a bit more than "entitled to a little more". To me, 5x the chances and 35%(?) reroll chance is a whole heluva lot more than someone that didn't pay for that opportunity.
but over here, if it is like what you are saying, and everything is the correct calculation, shouldnt i at least be getting more drops than you??? if not more than say equal. which i am not, and even worse, i am not getting anything at all!!!...and that is what frustrate me....i am def not asking for a pink or a diamond every single drop, but at least reward me once in a blue moon to keep me just a tiny little bit satisfied. not with the money i spent, i really dont care. but with the same amount of time that ive put in this game comparing to every other player thats been rubbing their diamond loot in my face with no elixer...
Dude, i feel ur pain guys, i was like this with 13, 14 aswell.. But seriously, think about it, this is a video game. Dont take it so serious, get a hobby, start something new, try new things, meet new pp, maybe get ur first gf, if u had one get a new one, id u have one aleady get a second one..l dont get frustratee over a video game. I spend lots and lots of platinum, grinded my butt off, did cyber multiple times, been LUCKY with drops like 5-6 times in my PL career! I played this game first when there was only 1 town.. No hats, i think it actually cost like 79 cents at first, i dont remember anymore.. Anyways.. Everyone whos complaining thimk about ur life and what ur compalinig about.
I'm sorry.
It's not a guarantee.
You can't really rage over something you spent for, knowing that you might not get it.
In another game I play, there are people who have spent thousands on those "mystery prizes", where you can open and get a rare item.
At least you got a lot of XP.
I'd be happy with getting the XP alone.
Maybe you should try farming without elixirs sometime.
And this reminds me of that time I had some stupid inside-my-head rant about why the gold cap was 9,999,999 and I needed to create another character to stash my gold.
And then I saw how others didn't even have a single gold cap.
Ahh, the more problems the rich have.
Think about it, it's not too differet from my situation.
I feel bad, because I bought one elixir on the deal of the day for 30 platinum and got 3 drops in the course of an hour. Then again, I was wearing my Bigger Luck (some say Bigger Luck vanity doesn't help at all)
Guess I typed it out wrong. What I was saying in over 2000 plat I think I would have at least one drop for me. Little heated to say the least. Especially hearing how well everyone makes out in bash with elixers. Anyways back to thrashing and bashing something's got to give soon ya know.
[QUOTE=Yao;716419]It's luck, man.
Believe me, I've probably farmed more than you have.
And I know others who have definetely farmed more than you or I have combined.
And they were on Thrash the whole time.
I don't see why you're demanding so much off of Plat.
You're already getting four times more EXP than we are, super fast movement, a lot more kills, and a better chance to a pink.
But for the last part, in the end, it's always dependent on your luck.
You might have a 99% chance of winning the lottery and I might have a 1% chance of winning the lottery.
You think you'll definetely win because your percentage is higher?
But then I win.
You can't complain, it's your own blame you decided to slack off and not buy that last 1 ticket.
And then say we had this lottery 500 more times.
And I win it every single time.
At a 1% rate.
What does this mean?
Well for starters, my personal luck is better than yours.
And this is still possible.
It'll just mathematically take me 1,000000000000000000000000 tries.
But it's still possible.
That reminds me of Purell.
They say they sanitize 99% of all germs.
And then you get a fever.
You can go complain that maybe it actually sanitizes only 80% of all germs or maybe even only 1% of all germs.
But you have no proof, and they can get away saying, "Oh you're luck just sucks. That 1% of germs got you!"
I have farmed over 100 runs of Underground Desert soloing non-stop and gotten no pink.
In another game I play, there are these boxes that you can buy from other people.
I bought lots of stacks from people and used my own gold to open them.
And there are these rare "Mystic Soul" pieces that you can get from the boxes.
And those sell for a lot.
But instead of making back any money, I lost all my money "gambling" with these.
But I just kept opening every box I could get my hands on, and in the end I made back twice the amount of money I started with.
That's the spirit!
One way I look at it when I have crap for luck, is that over the course of time when results are chance, anything that can happen will happen. Rare situations just take longer.
How I think is, if I'm in a pink drought, that just means I'm getting my bad luck out the way, because I expect bad luck. Good luck will also happen.
I watched a documentary on the guys from MIT who developed a system that made them millionaires (it's a true story),
They had their own rules for breaking Vegas.
The FIRST rule-
Thou shal believe in the laws of average!
Ok there are no guarantees, but keep at it.
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you went too deep with it bud, like i said, it just a vent, vent due to my drought of diamond drops, my lack of luck which leads to bad gaming experience for me and only for me...but thanks for taking the time to break it down and rub it all over my face again to bring the memories back of not having any luck at all!!!! sincerely!!!
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