http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...laying-Wrap-Up!Originally Posted by Serancha
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Under the loot section Remi added a chance from the gold orc chests.
This is turning into a pure p2w situation. I am sorry but advice like "farm crates and sell to plat whales" is bullsh*t extraordinaire. I want to farm actual stuff, not freaking locks.
Oh my god, Plat users not only are happy for feel the chance of get a arcane item from a locked. Now we have double chance of happiness! why? open and open and open crates = total maybe items arcanes + 1000 and more and more tokens we can buy the item arcane from naxbolt // we many money in game and STS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in life.
I'm a plat user but I'm felling bad for non- plat users...
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who cares if lots of arcanes and mythics flood the market? its afforable for everyone that way. and it will take time to farm so will keep expansion alive longer. plat buyers can quickly get their things and enjoy the advantages but everyone is pretty much guaranteed them one or the other in the end. either by eventually farming the ingredients or farming crates til they can afford to buy in auction. this is good for everyone. ppl who wouldn't normally buy plat will cos its a guaranteed something, and there will be high demand for crates for ages so good for farmers too.
sts i think this idea is great!
i just wanna know what fibus means when he says they can't be farmed in brackenridge area. cos all lvls need something to farm
What makes me nervous is the "chance" part. The loot chances of tokens could be equal to looting an arcane item in grand crates. Add that to the rarity of (elite?) Golden Orc Chest and it could literally take upwards to a year to get a single item from Naxbot. Without popping any Rengol crates open.
Last edited by Vediovis; 06-19-2015 at 07:45 PM.
Awesome my 25 million will be worth so much more.
In other news: conclucion of this thread the GREAT winner of the new expansion are we the plat users
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pls give old lock crates something good so that we can consume all 50,000 old locks remaining...pls dont leave old lock crates behind...
Pls confirm if the crates can only be opened by plat and the only way to get those tokens is by opening them then that means non plat farmers will suffer its not fair that they can only earn tokens from opening -.- its not fair then how can the non plat farmer get the good stuff if WE ARE WILLING TO FARM ALOT FOR THEM and not open crates for those its just not fair
Tokens drop from Rengol crates...which require plats to open. How would hardcore farmers that like to play the game the challenging way (i.e.not spending plats) obtain those arcane items besides farming for locks like a robot? If there are more farming options for the f2p people for them to obtain far-reaching goals, farming would very much be renewed unlike its current status.
Last edited by Jeffgeomon; 06-19-2015 at 07:52 PM.
Well, as Remi said in http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...laying-Wrap-Up <-- this post, "Golden Orc Chests will now have a chance to drop a Crate token."
So, if you like the challenge of being free to play, you can spend 6-12 months farming for hours upon hours every day to hopefully farm enough tokens to buy 1 single arcane item....
Or you could just spend a couple hundred on the game and guarantee an arcane in like 5 minutes - your choice.
Wow I can't believe people thought that if arcanes flood the market the non-plat users will have a chance of buying it but its not that easy even if there's 500 arcane fossils and shards whether in auc or not obviously NOT EVERYBODY COULD AFFORD IT not all non-plqt users have the "recquired" gold amount for it. It will probably just make the gap between rich and poor larger because the rich can just but those arcanes when there cheaper
Is $300 cheaper for a single virtual item in a game? ( 300 dollars may stay true if the token needed in a final expansion is same as test server). Although, It does not stop at 300 dollars because we will still need crates. I am not sure how much the normal crate gonna cost me. Even I assume 10 k per crate = 1,000 x 10,000=10,000,000 gold. However some of the loot or drop may compensate on this expenses. Also, there is crafting/levelling part which is not easy/cheap either.
Some old rich players may be worried that they may not profit from the arcane items they have been hoarding. But please also think about new poor players.
If this lock system is implemented it will help most player. As non plat player can farm locked whereas plat players can have certain assurance to get something in return after opening crates. And noob poor players like me do not have to wait for 2-3 years to get one single arcane items if I put on some hard work.
Please STS don't change your decision as it will help balance the game at certain levels.
Aren't we already tired of chance/luck system!!!
Which was exactly my point. No one wants to farm "6-12 months" of those chests just for "1 single arcane item". The luck based "chance" of obtaining one further destroys any reason to farm them. That's why by favouring p2w players, sts has created a larger gap between the rich and poor. Thus, farmers need more options to farm for them, and an increased chance of doing so.
this is genius! not only it will keep farmers alive, and it won't let gold to be too abundant for lock poppers (which most call it by 'inflation'), and force a good and real gold flow from farmers to lock poppers and vice versa...
please consider this, devs
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I'm completely with you on this one. I'm opposed to p2w. Microtransactions are fine, but when it comes to the point where they are the only way to play the game, the game isn't worth playing anymore. It may not have come across in text, but there is a lot of resentment towards the current proposed locked crate system in my reply to you. In one of my earlier posts on this thread, I figured at 5 minutes per run with a 20% chance of getting golden chests (very lucky individual) it would take 2 months of farming at 5 hours a day to get 1 arcane item if the tokens were guaranteed. Multiply that time by whatever the chance is to get a token out of a ren'gol chest and you're looking at an actual entire season of playing 5 hours a day or more straight just to farm a single arcane item that someone who pays a couple hundred dollars to the game company can just get essentially instantly - guaranteed! I think it's not a very good plan for the future of the game, but I'm not a business analyst or anything. Just a guy who has seen several MMOs flop hard when pay 2 win systems were implemented in them. Who knows what will happen in the end though.
Hi fibus and remiem,
I appreciate the way u guys looked after platinum users to tackle the complaint of getting nothing from loot. But I disagree on this point that those items which were quite rare in game are now going to get viral. Take an example of nightshade. It was limited to 3 players last year and now I can see hundreds n hundreds of players running around with them. It's good to see being used but the exclusive nature got destroyed by tokens and the same thing is going to happen for these token based items.
What I feel is the tokens system has to be considered once again. Don't make it so easily available. And I agree with many of the players about the p2w based scenario. Is platinum everything in this game? Do u guys know it's going to destroy motivation Content from players? How come non platinum players afford these items? How about the economy?
For those I would like to forward some points for consideration.
- Token items to be non tradable or stashable (including Nekro egg and arcane ring)
- 1 token point from opening elite chest from rengol boss drops
- 1 token point from opening locked massive chest of rengol only
- new map and new village to be opened for 41 and above players only. So that twinks won't get their hands on these token based items so easy to abuse at their levels.
Last edited by davidvilla; 06-19-2015 at 08:37 PM.
Please make these tokens farmable in only the new elite maps with a higher drop chance than teeth were. Instead of 1 for 5 Plat assured, you would have the chance to get 1 for 15 mins+ (I'm assuming).
I've said it before, but an mmo should have an easy way to a goal - by spending real money - and the hard way, by working your a$$ off for it. Don't make this expansion P2W again, especially considering this is quite possibly the last expansion in AL.
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