Thread: 1.7 Content Update (55818)
From what ive read, people are misunderstanding. The item ITSELF isnt temporary; the hat of course will stay. Its the fact that it gives luck that people are argueing over. I personally would like to see it stay forever; thats what st pattys day is all about, luck. Maybe its just cuz my luck hasnt been all good, but if you really count the number of posters in this thread, its like.. 10 people. Out of the thousands.
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Yeah but Phys and Royce have an opinion, and theirs count as 1,000 each :P
No, it's about St. Patrick. >.<Originally Posted by giayuan
Anyways, I agree with luck being temporary, it's a holiday item. It is VERY similar to the Big Love for Valentine's Day, which had no bonus, yet people bought it. Also, do we really want a PL where the people who spend the most money always win? I hate those games, if you are going to spend money, it should be fair for everyone.
Furthermore, if luck were to be implemented, as others said, anyone who was not here to buy it would be at a disadvantage the rest of their gaming days. And if this continues, to equalize it, all vanity will need a bonus, and lo and behold, here comes forth the problem of people with money always winning.
Moreover, this promotes the concept of 'wasting money'. It shows the little kids that they have to pour their money into a game to be able to compete with everyone else. This kind of message is the reason we don't have gambling in PL. It's the same type of thing. Also, the fact that a permanent bonus is present, PL is making money the wrong way.
Buying maps: Yes
Buying extraneous items to even be able to compete with others: No
See when you start making money off forcing your customers to buy stuff to ckmpete with your fellow players, that's when I leave the game. I'm all for buying maps, it's like buying a video game from the store for an X-Box. It's just when that doesn't keep it equal is when I say it's not fair.
HOWEVER! If non-vanity items had these perks, say, super rare limited edition 1/100,000 chance Pinks, that is fine because everyone has a chance at them, not just the moneybags. YES I know life isn't that way, but it's my opinion as to how it should be when it CAN be. And those of you that say make it permanent: Is it because you bought it and want the perk? Are you worried about wasting plat? If you hadn't bought it, would you feel the same way? What if it was cheaper?
Bottom line: I'M FOR TEMPORARY LUCK.
Last edited by Lizardfeather; 03-15-2011 at 09:57 PM.
1: this whole 11 pages was mostly "debating" about the temporary status of big luck, and nothing constructive came out of it yet
2: since it's a vanity and occasion item, it should be temporary, but 15 plat is a lot (@mooger, not objectively, but rather as a matter of principle). 5 plat is what is should cost.
A lot of ppl rely on tapjoy (android) to get plat, and new offers barely come out once in a while. This is nearly the same as forcing the to buy plat if the want the item, putting people who actually paid for their plat, and hence, have the item, get a serious advantage ingame. => unfair
3: the quest count has been updated, but there have not been any new quests available per se. I've done Annah's daily (once more), and it still shows 43/44 in AO.
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Sorry, will have to agree to disagree. Devs gotta make cash somehow, and as pointed out earlier Big Love cost the same I believe and no one howled about it. The price is fair, just a question of whether temporary or not, and I see the points of both sides for/against temporary and said "reserving future judgement til later".
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STS needs some income to cover the cost of expanding this game. It's nothing wrong here they put a vanity that increase luck to attract ppl to spend money. Actually it's a really nice business idea which works well too. I log in today and saw the big luck almost on everyones head.
Guys please take a look the numbers of players online. It's 2800 at peak and 900 off-peak which IMO is really bad for a mmorpg. I remember when I started, the numbers are always around 3500.
Plus, the bunch of high lvlers there, they stopped spending, but server is running everyday which cost a lot and there's employees there waiting for their wages.
To the economy problem, I don't think it will have much impact on it Coz it's just give us a extra chance to reroll,not increase drop rate straight ahead. Let's assume drop rate is 1% and big luck give u 10% to reroll, the new drop rate is just 1.1%. Will that ruin economy? I doubt it.
After all, I just feel I should pay some money to support this great game. So I bought 3 big luck.
Last edited by jiroununu; 03-15-2011 at 10:06 PM.
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5 plat is the cost of a standard vanity item.
15 is a holiday premium item WITH extended "Luck" benefits that are permanent. The price is fine on them.
Also, Big love was way more expensive, and was just for looks.
The question here is whether the effects should/will be permanent or not.
As for price, if Big Love was the same, then I don't see why people are complaining about it, even if the effect is temporary. Sure, if you bought it for that one reason alone, I can understand. But many would have bought it regardless.
1.) Yes, it is incentive to buy them, which stimulates platinum purchase
2.) No, players down the road will make major complaints that it is unfair since they weren't here when they were given.
(Just stating the cold, hard facts).
I would rather they make money on maps than on tilting the balance of the game.
Creativity vs. Forcefullness
Yah the latter is going to make more money... That's the void of a lot of MMORPGs
~World of Magic
~Anrufen
~PetsDogs2
~PetsLive
~TapFish
~MyDinos Go!
All these are around the top of the App Store. Hmmm...
And they all appear to be offerin benefits to the people who pay more Hmmm...
They all have 3 Stars and complaints on their reviews.
None of them are on my iPod.
Don't forget Smurfs Village lol. That thing was downloaded and deleted within 5 minutes. Shame, too, bc I like Smurfs!
I hate all of those apps... Nothing like getting on and seeing "Oh hey, you need to pay $50,000 dollars to enjoy this game, then beyond that, a monthly payment of $400 bucks because the main aspect of the game requires a constant stream of money".....
Agreed with 1.
And as far as 2, I just say (in my personal opinion), that is just the way it is. Go play WoW, for an example...there are hundreds of items that were only available for specific promotions at certain times and one can no longer get. Whenever I ran across someone with one, I'd ask and find out it was by-gone promotion deal, and sure I'd say "man, too bad I can't get one" but hey, I wasn't around for the promotion and they were...I didn't feel I was entitled to something I wasn't a paying customer/player at the time it was offered. Game makers are not obligated to have every single offer available forever in case other people come along. If they choose to, great....but if not, well that is often the way it is in online gaming
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Most Apps you can buy for money now try to farm you for more 0.o
Don't do it PL!!!
Agree with you Mooger. Runescape doesn't understand the concept. Players from 2010 feel entitled to a scythe and quit the game because of it, hopefully players like that don't come to PL.
(Rift is offering insane limited time item promotions for buying the game now. These items are waaaayyyy better then any of the game-standard items and pretty much makes oldies gods.)
Sounds like a bad idea. Rift looks cool, but I don't agree with that choice.
Back when I used to play RS years and years ago, the limited time items were vanity items, just like PL (used to be?). So yeah you look cool and feel special, but don't have any advantage over others in regards to gameplay.
If the bonus luck is permanent, there has to be another, permanent, way for players to get the same bonus.
Les does have a point, WoW is as close to virtual world as it gets, and they have a reason to make insane limitted time items.
It is just a small luck bonus, this means that if they do this, there will be other advantages down the road for others to enjoy.
Noticed and was pointed out to that the 800 Platinum purchase is not available again.
Why? A lot of the items in WoW (again, just an example) were not just vanity items but had specific bonuses or attributes....and were available for a limited time only. I almost always agree with you, but what is your logic that if at some point during a game's lifecycle an item is offered that may have an attribute bonus, that it must always be offered? WoW is probably the biggest and baddest MMORPG out there, and that is not the case there....as an example.
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I never played WoW, but were those bonuses/attributes only available on those items?
And anyway, PL is not WoW. Just because WoW does something, doesn't mean PL has to. Should PL also start charging monthly fees because WoW does? One of the things I've always appreciated about PL is that you couldn't get an advantage over others simply by spending real cash. Now here we're talking about something that not only costs plat and gives an advantage, but can only be gotten for a limited time. It's not in sync with PL's history.
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